[criley2]

Sure, phones aren't directly doing the scamming, but they're supercharging the ability to do so.

Phones are also a very popular mechanism for scamming businesses. It's tough to pull off CEO scams without text and calls.

Therefore, phones are bad?

This is of course before we talk about what criminals do with money, making money truly evil.

[only-one1701]

Without phones, we couldn’t talk to people across great distances (oversimplification but you get it).

Without Generative AI, we couldn’t…?

[simianwords]

Whats the big deal in talking to people across great distances? We can live without it.

[shepherdjerred]

Are you really implying that generative AI doesn't enable things that were not previously possible?

[jamiek88]

Name some then! I initially scoffed too but I can only think of stuff LLM’s make easier not things that were impossible previously.

[pixl97]

Isn't that the vast majority of products? By making things easier they change the scale it is accomplished at? Farming wasn't previously impossible before the tractor.

People seemingly have some very odd views on products when it comes to AI.

[Larrikin]

It's actually a fair question. There are software projects I wouldn't have taken on without an LLM. Not because I couldn't make it. But because of the time needed to create it.

I could have taken the time to do the math to figure out what the rewards structure is for my Wawa points and compare it to my car's fuel tank to discover I should strictly buy sandwiches and never gas.

People have been making nude celebrity photos for decades now with just Photoshop.

Some activities have gotten a speed up. But so far it was all possible before just possibly not feasible.

[shepherdjerred]

Would it be fair to say a car or plane aren’t significant then, given we could always traverse by horse or boat?

[simianwords]

What did internet bring?

[queenkjuul]

For the most part, it hasn't. What do you consider previously impossible, and how is it good for the world?

[freejazz]

> were not previously possible?

How obtuse. The poster is saying they don't enable anything of value.

[solid_fuel]

Can you name one thing generative AI enables that wasn't previously possible?

[pixl97]

Can you name one thing a plow enables that wasn't previously possible?

This line of thinking is ridiculous.

[Larrikin]

A plow enables you to till land you couldn't before with your bare hands.

The phone let's you talk to someone you couldn't before when shouting can't.

ChatGPT let's you...

Please complete the sentence without an analogy

[simianwords]

This conversation is naive and simplifies technologies into “does it achieve something you otherwise couldn’t”.

The answer is that chatgpt allows you to do things more efficiently than before. Efficiency doesn’t sound sexy but this is what adds up to higher prosperity.

Arguments like this can be used against internet. What does it allow you to do now that you couldn’t do before?

Answer might be “oh I don’t know, it allows me to search and index information, talk to friends”.

It doesn’t sound that sexy. You can still visit a library. You can still phone your friends. But the ease of doing so adds up and creates a whole ecosystem that brings so many things.

[pixl97]

>A plow enables you to till land you couldn't before with your bare hands.

It does not. You could still till the land with hand tools. You just get a lot more done.

ChatGPT let's me program in languages I was not efficient in before.

Anyway, I'm done with your technology purity contest, it has about zero basis in reality.

[criley2]

They tilled by hand for thousands of years before inventing a plow to speed it up.

They spoke slowly, through letters, until phones sped it up.

We coded slowly, letter by letter, until agents sped it up.

[mcv]

...generate piles of low quality content for almost free.

AI is fascinating technology with undoubtedly fantastic applications in the future, but LLMs mostly seem to be doing two things: provide a small speedup for high quality work, and provide a massive speedup to low quality work.

I don't think it's comparable to the plow or the phone in its impact on society, unless that impact will be drowning us in slop.

[JumpCrisscross]

> Therefore, phones are bad?

Phones are utilities. AI companies are not.