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by spacechild1 144 days ago
> Had this person been perfectly still, he'd be still alive.

Again, I'd like to see you stay perfectly still after getting peppersprayed in the face without any reason. At no point was he threatening and attacking ICE agents. He was trying to help another woman who had just been assaulted by agents. They created the very situation that led to this tragedy.

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There was a reason if you watched the video, it was the "help" of putting his hands on one of the officers. And bringing a gun into a situation like this.

There was a lot of whistlers, but I think the woman being helped was one of them, so this was what started the chain of events.

What started the whole thing is that an ICE agent violently pushed the women from behind.
Yes, because the woman was following the agent around, whistling.
This is no reason for violently pushing someone to the ground, at least by my Central European standards.

And at no point did Alex attack an agent. See my other comment.

If someone were to follow me around while blowing a whistle then that would be quite irritating. What would you do in this situation?

Alex seemed to put hands on an officer. Whether this was well meaning in his head, it might have not seemed so to the officer. (Keep in mind that he had a constant whistle in his ear!)

> What would you do in this situation?

Follow the protocol. If you lose your nerves because of people blowing a whistle, you're in the wrong job.

> Alex seemed to put hands on an officer

Where do you see that? All I see is that he raised his left hand in a protective manner, likely to keep the agent at a distance and protect himself from the pepper spray. After that gesture he turns away from the agent to help the woman on the ground. That's when they grapple him from behind and wrestle him to the ground. At no point did Alex behave in a threatening way or physically attack an agent. The DHS report does not mention any threating behavior either.