[throw0101a]

From the leftist-Communist rag (/s) Wall Street Journal:

> It started out that way. At the beginning of 2025, 87% of ICE arrests were immigrants with either a prior conviction or a criminal charge pending, according to ICE data obtained by the Deportation Data Project. Only 13% of those arrested at the beginning of 2025 didn’t have either a conviction or a pending charge.

> But the criminal share of apprehensions has declined as the months have gone on. By October 2025, the percentage of arrested immigrants with a prior conviction or criminal charge had fallen to 55%. Since October, 73% taken into ICE custody had no criminal conviction and only 5% had a violent criminal conviction, according to a Cato Institute review of ICE data.

* https://archive.is/https://www.wsj.com/opinion/mass-deportat...

Under Obama 3M illegal immigrants were removed, and there wasn't all of this drama.

(Hint: this isn't about public safety or illegal immigration.)

[ardme]

I have read the Obama era numbers are inflated because they counted turn aways at the border.

It’s also a little interesting that Obama was able to be against illegal immigration without a ton of pushback. Why was that?

[throw0101a]

> It’s also a little interesting that Obama was able to be against illegal immigration without a ton of pushback. Why was that?

Maybe because under Obama agents didn't go around smashing windows:

* https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/17/ice-detentio...

Note: the above person was an asylum seeker, so following the official process (AFAICT).

Or under Obama they didn't pull away people who were in line to take the Oath of Allegiance:

* https://people.com/immigrants-approved-for-citizenship-pulle...

Or take US citizens out of their homes, in their underwear, in the middle of winter:

* https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/a-u-s-citizen-says-ice-f...

Perhaps under Obama due process was followed, or not going after / grabbing people randomly based on the color of their skin:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kavanaugh_stop

[JumpCrisscross]

> interesting that Obama was able to be against illegal immigration without a ton of pushback. Why was that?

He got tons of pushback from the left. He was just able to weather his party’s fringe in ways Republicans have not.

[exo762]

For the same reason Nixon was able to establish OSHA without a ton of pushback.

[gedy]

Team sports basically. And when you point out double standards, you got slammed as some "both sides" guy from the other team pretending to be a centrist.

[hypeatei]

This is a delusional take. For starters, there was criticism from lefties against Obama. Second, Obama didn't use ICE as a secret police force and send them into his political opponents' cities to punish them for wrongthink. You cannot tell me with a straightface that ICE in their current capacity is "just enforcing immigration laws"

[gedy]

I think you're assuming way too much about my point and jumping to conclusions, QED

[hypeatei]

What was your point? You mentioned "double standards" and "team sports" as if the Trump and Obama admins were comparable with their use of ICE.

If you wanted to make a more detailed point, then do that but as your comment stands, it is just a useless bothsides-ism.

[JumpCrisscross]

Has anyone calculated a hazard score for apprehension for illegal immigrants with a violent criminal conviction? As in, with dragnet deportation, are the violent ones also being picked up? Or are they actually safer today than they were a few years ago given Noem and Miller are more interested in making TikTok videos than pursuing hard-to-get criminals?