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> With everything depending on systemd interfaces, its an exhausting uphill battle to run anything desktop-like without systemd.

Yes, but this is hardly a unique systemd/Linux problem. I despise TypeScript for various reasons, always preferred vanilla JavaScript over TypeScript. So if I'm met with "Huh, this library is using TypeScript, am I ready to deal with that", I make the choice to not depend on that, even though half of the ecosystem uses TypeScript.

Going against the grain comes with more work probably, but this is also a choice we make, because we have strong feelings and opinions about something.

[direwolf20]

Languages are confined. I don't speak Rust — yet — so when I want to modify some software that is written in Rust that is a disappointment. However, the effect of software being written in Rust is limited to that software and its libraries. It doesn't infect your system the way systemd does.