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> You're in the minority now in EU if you can afford to have those things now.

A quick search tells me that home ownership in the EU is Approximately 70%, ranging from around 95% in countries such as Romania and Slovakia, to around 50% in Germany. Non-EU citizens disproportionately owns less houses.

So, no. I am not at all in the minority.

Youth unemployment is an issue, being 15% in the EU as a whole, with some countries hovering on 30%. The US has 10% of youth unemployment (considering their labor laws are appallingly bad for workers, I am not sure if this is much of an improvement).

> Since you already have a house and everything, then yeah it makes no sense for you. But I would do it in a heartbeat if I could.

Good for you, may you achieve your goals.

I didn't own a house until a year ago. Refusing offers from the US and moving to EU was likely the best decision I ever made.

I had a life threatening illness not long ago. In the US I would likely be either bankrupt of dead. I appreciate the safety net and labor protections here, even with the higher taxes.

[joe_mamba]

> to around 50% in Germany.[...] Non-EU citizens disproportionately owns less houses.[...] So, no. I am not at all in the minority.

Do you see the issue here?

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No?

Home ownership in the US is about 65%, but I presume that may vary a bit by state.

I also expect non-US citizens to disproportionately own less houses.

[joe_mamba]

I don't get the obsession with the US here. That's a different country than the EU where I(and you to afaik) live and the target of the topic.

If I can't afford a house, it makes it no better to me if you tell me that some people in the US also can't afford one, like that's supposed to make me feel better or something.

And with 50% home ownership statistics, it seems I'm not alone. I'm glad the system worked for you but it failed me and so I will vote to those who put my interest first and not devalue my labor.

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> I don't get the obsession with the US here.

This conversation, that you replied to, was a consideration of whether it made sense to move to the US. You mentioned that if you could move there, you would.

I presumed it worked as a basis of comparison?

> And with 50% home ownership statistics, it seems I'm not alone. I'm glad the system worked for you but it failed me and so I will vote to those who put my interest first and not devalue my labor.

I presume you live in Germany? I know some engineers who live there, I used to work with a team based off on Germany years ago.

They are doing fine.

I don't really care who you vote for. Based on your stance, I presume you blame immigrants for "devaluing your labor".

Contrary to you, I believe that with more trade and movement of highly skilled people, economic progress follows.

I don't believe stagnation is a viable strategy. You are free to believe otherwise.

Have a wonderful afternoon.

[joe_mamba]

>They are doing fine.

Define "fine". How many own homes?

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3 out of 4, if I am not terribly mistaken.

I lost contact with a couple of them over the years.