[anon291]

> borders are secure now, nobody gets to leave

This is honestly insane.

> On the military angle, I'd much rather live in a country without nukes.

That's because the majority of the typical American with these views is extremely privileged and has never actually had to live in a country without nukes. Ukraine is the future of countries without nukes -- forced to choose between great powers or made into buffer zones without any prospects. It's all so tiresome really.