[dzonga]

you remove "managers" then simply rate of output goes up.

specially the middle managers i.e engineering managers, senior engineering manager, director of engineering duh duh

there's less coordination to do - to keep managers up to date.

the most functional software orgs out there - don't have managers

[bandrami]

Output goes up until everything fails catastrophically

[esafak]

Which orgs did you have in mind?