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by sejje 148 days ago
There's a recent video of a woman getting arrested, not for the first time, for admitting that she might be praying to herself inside her head, silently.

Here's an article I searched up about it: https://adfinternational.org/news/uk-christian-woman-crimina...

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Because there is a law against people impeding or trying to influence people within 150 meters of an abortion clinic. Her admitted goal was trying to influence people entering. Will her defense be that she does not believe prayer has an influence on the world?

Most would agree that 150 people standing in front of the abortion clinic would obviously an attempt to impede or influence people. What if someone stands there "praying" but really noting faces and license plates for future harassment? Where does the law draw that line?

The ADF is a discriminatory, corrosive organization that has done real harm to millions by rolling back civil rights in the US, and now they have taken their agenda internationally.

The hypocrisy of calling this a "thought crime" is stunning. ADF is the same organization that brought a case against a Colorado law that banned discrimination against LGBTQ businesses, because a baker was worried she may have to bake a cake for a gay wedding - which she was never asked to do. So some thoughts are legally protected (prayer) while others (concern) are justifications to roll back civil rights. But the thoughts of others (terror and shame while entering an abortion clinic, feelings when discriminated against, love for a same sex partner) are irrelevant and not worthy of protection.

Their stated purpose is "advancing every person’s God-given right to live and speak the truth" - but only "live" and speak the "truth" that they deem to be correct, based on their evangelical and politically-charged interpretation of Christianity. And they want that legislated.

(outside an abortion facility)
Yes, the place she thought needed her prayers.

How is that important?

What are your views on abortion?

I believe in free access. I also believe those going to get an abortion shouldn’t be impeded by protesters in the immediate vicinity when getting their healthcare.

She was standing alone, across the street, on the curb/grass next to the sidewalk, kind of doing a homer simpson into the bushes.

There were no other people visible, she made no noise.

She didn't impede anyone, and it would have been very difficult to tell she was protesting, if that's in fact what she was doing (I'm not her, so I don't know).

I don't believe in God, so those particulars (or that it was an abortion clinic) aren't important to me. She was arrested for thinking silently to herself.

Do you believe God was listening to the prayers and influencing the people at the abortion clinic? From what I read the lady was standing there and not blocking free access. The law says you may not influence.
> Do you believe God was listening to the prayers and influencing the people at the abortion clinic?

No, the woman was there tying to influence other women’s healthcare, something she had no right to get involved in.

Edit: The police did screw this up - the clinic was closed. She also received a payout.

Framing this as ‘thought police’ is wrong, the issue was her presence.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gze361j7xo