[ljsprague]

He was there to create chaos in order to interfere with law enforcement. I don't think anyone denies this. And it was very bad that he had a gun when the inevitable confrontation occurred. This is likely why it's illegal to carry a firearm when interfering with or obstructing law enforcement operations.

[datsci_est_2015]

> This is likely why it's illegal to carry a firearm when interfering with or obstructing law enforcement operations.

Ah so all you have to do is define your unconstitutional actions as “law enforcement operations” and suddenly we can start throwing away amendments. The founding fathers hate this one trick!

> He was there to create chaos in order to interfere with law enforcement. I don't think anyone denies this.

I deny this vehemently, mostly under the definitions of “chaos” and “law enforcement”. I do not view outcomes of civil disobedience as “chaos”, and I do not view the actions of ICE in Minneapolis as “law enforcement”.

Final edit: your painting of the victim in such a negative light, despite knowing so little about him, is morally repugnant. Observe yourself. “Look for the helpers” - Mr Rogers. Should everyone present at these protests be assumed to be subject to summary execution, no matter their intent? If you’re American, I’m ashamed to be in the same country as you.

[ljsprague]

Arresting criminal aliens is a constitutional, law enforcement operation.

[datsci_est_2015]

“Arresting criminal aliens”, and in the process, breaking many fundamental constitutional rights like due process.

Even the phrasing of “arresting criminal aliens” is barbaric lol. I can’t imagine hosting you in polite conversation. You’d be quietly drinking your morning coffee after Kristallnacht saying “well, it’s for the best [slurp]”.

[grumio]

You keep implying it without explicitly saying it:

You, ljsprague, believe Alex Pretti was executed for committing an offense.

Do you dispute this?

[ljsprague]

I believe it was a chaotic situation and the officers most likely fired because of multiple factors including: The guy had a gun. The gun apparently went off. He also seems to have been reaching for his holster.

You calling it an "execution" is dishonest.

[grumio]

Allll of your comments have been disparaging Pretti, and his attitude, his intentions, and so on. It is obvious.

Only when you're called out, do you mention self defense. Glad to see you have shame. Bye.

[ljsprague]

What are you even talking about. He would have proudly said he was there to disrupt law enforcement.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/video-appears-show-alex-pretti-sp...

[myvoiceismypass]

Your Judge Dredd world of "law enforcement" executing people in the streets is rather scary and wholly unconstitutional.

[grumio]

Was he executed for committing an offense(which is what you seem to be getting at, by making assumptions about Pretti, instead of focusing on self-defense)?

I hope you don't think that, that would be honestly disgusting. I'd strongly disagree with your stance for vigilantism and against law-and-order.

Or was he killed in self defense? And if so, why would the ICE agents be in fear for their life? I didn't see a reason myself but I want to know your perspective. Was there something in the video?