[Reubend]

I've read several people say that Kimi K2 has a better "emotional intelligence" than other models. I'll be interested to see whether K2.5 continues or even improves on that.

[flexagoon]

I love the Kimi response style. It's much more concise, without all the unnecessary "great question!"s and other annoying AI stuff

[Alifatisk]

Yup, I experience the same. I don't know what they do to achieve this but it gives them this edge, really curious to learn more about what makes it so good at it.

[in-silico]

A lot of people point to the Muon optimizer that Moonshot (the creators of Kimi) pioneered. Compared to the standard optimizer AdamW, Muon amplifies low-magnitude gradient directions which makes the model learn faster (and maybe gives Kimi its unique qualities).

Muon paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/2502.16982

[Alifatisk]

Wow! Thank you

[storystarling]

yes, though this is highly subjective - it 'feels' like that to me as well (comapred to Gemini 3, GPT 5.2, Opus 4.5).

[mohsen1]

I'll test it out on mafia-arena.com once it is available on Open Router