[jmaker]

Same here with a Pixel 10 Pro. Having seen issues that others have been struggling with, I’m shocked at the poor quality controls. It’s not only hardware, the software breaks every now and then. Looks like every patch introduces some bugs or bricks some Pixels. According to Gemini, it’s all known and has been discussed for a long time. I checked Pixel bug reports, some of them closed with wont-implement states, while users still struggling.

This was the first time in two decades that my smartphone broke, and it could only be replaced.

In the end, to me it’s really too much maintenance with Pixels and Android devices in general. Really don’t get it why people prefer Android. It’s like desktop Linux. Not there yet.

[tombert]

I think desktop Linux is “there” more than Windows is “there” right now, considering that at least shutting down Linux actually works.

[jmaker]

Depends on your Linux distribution. Hibernation had also been a long standing issue last I checked, especially on laptops.

[tombert]

Sure, it just annoys me that people seem to have amnesia with all the bullshit associated with desktop Windows, I guess because they’re used to it.

The recent updates breaking Notepad and Calculator and Outlook and the Shutdown feature are rare in that they have gotten press, but there are hundreds of other bits of bullshit associated with Windows, like the fact that Windows Update just routinely breaks your computer and the Windows recovery and repair tools do not work, and as far as I can tell they have never worked for anyone.

Linux has its share of bullshit, but at least the backup and recovery tools actually work.

I haven’t had an issue with hibernate in a few years on the more normy-friendly distros like Mint or Ubuntu or Suse, but I acknowledge that some people still do. I still don’t accept that it’s less ready that desktop Windows.

[jmaker]

That is terrible. I’ve been out of the loop with consumer Windows for like 20 years and enterprise Windows for a decade, last time was at a .NET shop. Two years ago or so, after watching a couple Microsoft folks give their talks, I tried one of the Microsoft Surfaces at a store and got quickly frustrated with it.

What you’re describing about Windows is very reminiscent of what Pixel users describe on Reddit.

I’m totally with you, I wouldn’t use Windows voluntarily. I’m not in a position to tell whether it’s more or less ready though, just no recent experience with it.

[tombert]

Yeah, if you’re comparing it to macOS, then I would broadly agree that desktop Linux is less-ready.

I do think it has improved considerably, especially on AMD hardware, and I think it’s better than Windows at this point. macOS is arguably better, but Macs are considerably more pricey, so they can be a bit difficult to recommend to people.