[zamadatix]

Just wait until you get a group of nerds talking about keyboards - suddenly it'll sound like there is no such thing as a keyboard worth buying either.

I think the main problems for Google (and others) from this type of issue will be "down the road" problems, not a large and immediately apparent change in user behavior at the onset.

[miltonlost]

Well, if the keyboard randomly mistypes 40% of the time like LLMs, that's probably not a worthwhile keyboard.

[zamadatix]

Depends what you're doing I suppose. E.g. if keyboards had a 40% error rate you wouldn't find me trying to write a novel on one... but you'd still find me using it for a lot of things. I.e. we don't choose to use tools solely based on how often they malfunction, rather stuff like how often they save us time over not using them on average.

[b112]

At 40% failure rate, the keyboard would be useless as a keyboard. What would you use it for?! 40% means the backspace, delete key wouldn't work 40% of the time, and even might hit the enter key instead.

Trying to fix the mistakes, would lead to more mistakes! Which I guess is apt, because that sounds a lot like AI.

You could use the keyboard to prop a door open though.

[zamadatix]

Is it 40% failure per individual back/forth or 40% failure per individual letter output? I guess it really just depends how much one wants to bash AI instead of actually talk about failure rate not normally being what makes using a tool worthwhile :D.

I'm not big on AI for much more than additional "Google search" type usage myself so it's interesting to see how polarized folks are that LLMs either have to be the greatest gift from god to take over the world or completely 100% useless trash which couldn't ever be used for anything because the output is not always correct.

[b112]

I suspect many of those saying it is great, have a vested interest in it being so. It's always this way each hype cycle.

AI has its uses, but repeatable output and accuracy aren't one of them.

[jabroni_salad]

nah bro just fix your debounce

[trympet]

> Just wait until you get a group of nerds talking about keyboards

Don’t get me started on the HHKB [1] with Topre membrane keyswitches. It is simply put the best keyboard on the market. Buy this. (No, Fujitsu didn’t pay me to say this)

[1] - https://hhkeyboard.us/hhkb/

[bflesch]

That thing is missing a whole bunch of ctrl keys, how can it be the best keyboard on the market?

[accrual]

Never used a HHKB (and would miss the modifier keys too), but after daily driving Topre switches for about 1.5 years, I can confirm they are fantastic switches and worth every penny.

[trympet]

It uses a Unix keyboard layout where the caps lock is swapped out with the ctrl key. I think it’s much more ergonomic to have the ctrl on the home row. The arrow keys are behind a fn modifier resting on the right pinky. Also accessible without moving your fingers from the home row. It’s frankly the best keyboard I ever had from an ergonomic POV. Key feel is also great, but the layout has a bit of a learning curve.

[trympet]

Dunno why I’m getting downvoted. Is it because you disagree with my statement? Is it because I’m off topic? Do you think I’m a shill?

[estimator7292]

People are downvoting an out of context advertisement shoved in the middle of a conversation.

Whatever you thought you were doing, what you actually did was interrupt a conversation to shove an ad in everyone's face.