[goatlover]

Conveniently you left out Musk's DOGE effort to take a chainsaw to the federal bureaucracy that people were protesting. And those protest did have the effect of making Elon unpopular enough that the administration didn't want to keep him around.

[noxer]

I didn't leave it out, it doesn't matter to my point. I refute the part about "winning" because clearly the protest did nothing to Musk it only had severe negative effects on thousands of other people.

He left his position as planned from the beginning, the protest had zero effect on what he did trough DOGE.

[goatlover]

That's not true. DOGE did not achieve it's goals of massive cuts. Unless the real goal was stealing information.

The negative effects were on all the people fired, thus why Virginia swung massively toward the Democrats in the 2025 elections.

[noxer]

You are moving the goal post. I never said DOGE did achieve anything.

You said the protest lead to him no longer be part of the administration which is factually incorrect. His position was limited from the start and he left as planned.

[47282847]

It is accurate to state that we don’t know if the protests had any influence on how things went down with DOGE. It is equally accurate to state that we don’t know if they didn’t have any influence on it. It is not accurate to state that he left as planned since the announcements of the USG change by the minute and don’t mean a thing.

[noxer]

I never made such statements, I refuted the parent posts statement that the protest against musk "won" that's all I did before the goal post moving replies came talking about DOGE.

Elon Musk's role in DOGE was limited because he was designated as a "special government employee", a federal employment category defined under 18 U.S.C. § 202 that restricts service to no more than 130 days in any 365-day period.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/202

This was publicly know back in February. The exact date wasn't know since it was not public when he because such a "special government employee". It turns out they started counting days straight from the inauguration date or rather the Executive Order 14158 (Creation of DOGE) date which was on the same day.

It is totally accurate to say he left as planned and thus also totally accurate to say that one of the statements above claiming the protest "won" by pushing him out of the administration is factually incorrect.

[lostlogin]

To claim that his role at DOGE was clear is incorrect. Musk’s position was unclear.

Even the DOGE was opaque and its status unclear. Having him with a black eye and chainsaw organising anything was madness. Even Trump eventually saw it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Government_Effic...

[noxer]

Again another goal post moving and inventing some claim that were not made in this thread.