[Batman8675309]

Yes. Let's switch to an app with Russian connections that has actively refused to implement E2EE for over a decade now.

[jhasse]

Russian connections is FUD and Telegram has E2EE encryption, but not by default.

[Batman8675309]

Said E2EE is mobile only and completely unavailable in group chats

[jhasse]

You are moving the goal post. But you're right: Signal's E2EE is miles better than telegram's. I was just trying to point out my experience in getting people to switch, most of the time they have different prioirities.