[aduwah]

I was a big fan of pidgin, but this premise makes me feel iffy.

Why would I ever want my work to intrude on my personal messaging? My private time is my own. Slack/Teams is perfect because I can mute it on a schedule when I stop for the day.

Anything that is urgent can be managed via Pagerduty or similar on a controlled fashion

[maqp]

The unfortunate problem with Pidgin is you don't have proper cross-platform E2EE chats, especially for groups. OTR is terribly outdated with its 1536-bit FFDH. These days the security margin sits at 2048-bit minimum, 3072-bit recommended. OMEMO might work but it's just not a standard. Good thing Signal made the whole thing just work.

[Bender]

Surely there must be someone capable of and willing to update OTR to support the latest PQC encryption protocols and ciphers. OTR is the only semi-trustable model of E2EE I have ever seen. Anything managed by the same platform managing the communication is dead in the water for me.

[maqp]

The OTRv4 project is apparently dead. The last commit from Celi was four years ago https://github.com/otrv4/otrv4

[Bender]

All the more reason to fork.

[altern8]

I loved Pigdin! The UI and brand was so good, too, for Linux back in the day...

[scroy]

Just as good on Windows, honestly. I miss that little bird.

[rw_grim]

You all know that we're still around and have been working on the next major release for quite a while now right?

You might be interested in our state of the bird posts... https://discourse.imfreedom.org/tag/state-of-the-bird

[scroy]

Nice. I think I left around the time gchat dropped XMPP support. Is google chat supported to any extent these days?

[rw_grim]

Kind of.. Getting a login cookie is difficult, but doable-ish https://github.com/EionRobb/purple-googlechat

[swiftcoder]

> this premise makes me feel iffy. Why would I ever want my work to intrude on my personal messaging?

I think the pitch here is exactly the opposite of that? Many businesses in the EU already use WhatsApp for customer contact - this lets you separate your business communications from the app you use for personal messaging