[Noaidi]

Yes, I know this sounds conspiratorial, but I think the whole Liquid Ass thing was a rush to put some other software in Apple products to appease the Trump admin.

For example, it is new in Tahoe that they store your filevault encryption key in your icloud keychain without telling you.

https://sixcolors.com/post/2025/09/filevault-on-macos-tahoe-...

[eddyg]

Which is a very good thing.

iCloud is much more secure than most people realize because most people don’t take the 30 minutes to learn how it is architected.

You can (and should) watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLGFriOKz6U&t=1993s for all the details about how iCloud is protected, but especially the time-linked section. :)

[ionwake]

I dont need to know anything about icloud to know this repy doesnt answer the "they didnt tell anyone" part which naturally makes me suspicious.

[microtonal]

But iCloud Keychain is end-to-end encrypted using device-specific keys, so Apple cannot read items in your iCloud Keychain (modulo adding their own key as a device key, rolling out a backdoor, etc. but that applies to all proprietary software).

[blackoil]

How is the data recovered if device is lost?

[internet2000]

If you lose access to all devices in the circle of trust, the data is lost. If you're curious: https://support.apple.com/guide/security/secure-keychain-syn...

[blackoil]

That doesn't sound very promising for someone who may have only one phone from Apple or just laptop.

[cromka]

My conspiration theory about Liquid Ass is their hardware for past 5 years was so good that they needed to make people finally upgrade it. My Air M1 16GB worked absolutely fine until it slowed down immensely on macOS 26.