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by justapassenger 151 days ago
It’s NOT self driving. It’s level 2 driving assist. Really good one, but that has nothing to do with self driving. You are driving the car all the time, it’s only assist that can (and will) try to kill you (and others) with 0 notice if you don’t pay attention.
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ddalex 151 days ago
> Really good one ... that can (and will) try to kill you (and others) ...

I'm afraid to ask about the bad ones.

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justapassenger 151 days ago
Ironically - bad ones will effectively try to kill you less.

That’s the thing about any automations that are just aides. Humans are extremely bad at monitoring machines, and if aide system is good enough that trick you into thinking it’s actually stand alone and in control, you get complacent very fast, stop pay attention as you convince yourself that automation got it.

So bad level 2 driver assists are so bad, that no one will get complacent, as they give you only very minor help. Really good ones (like comma) can trick you into thinking that they can do much more than they’re designed to do.

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SirMaster 151 days ago
Everyone that I have heard from who uses one say that it reduces the monotonous mental load and frees up their brain to focus more on being aware of other drivers and what's happening on the road, rather than worrying about their speed and exact steering.

People report being more alert and more aware of things about to go wrong.

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thunfischtoast 150 days ago
I've made a similar experience. Not having to focus on my exact speed all the time (using adaptive cruise control) enables me to watch the mirrors more. It also enables me to keep my attention over multiple hours.

On a kinda unrelated note: I lately see more and more people watching streams or Tik Tok while driving. If of course you use your newly acquired freedom for that it will lead to more accidents.

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literalAardvark 150 days ago
One thing I really appreciate about cruise control is that my foot can be floating above the brake at all times.

This cuts an entire second off of brake times in motorcycling, where it's just a quick hand move that you MUST do (well, 80% of it, the throttle release part) anyway because if you leave the throttle on you will wipe out, so I'd assume it cuts even more for a move like a large lateral move of a leg in a car.

Only issue is that you need to be careful with that foot to avoid keeping your brake lights on at all times.

Note that this might only apply to driving stick. I'm not sure if left foot on brakes is best practice in automatics.

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