[andrekandre]

  > But I do remember when Kotlin broke on to the scene in 2015, and most of us were thrilled to finally move beyond Java 7! 

n=1 but i was there with android studio v0.01 (or thereabouts) using kotlin for a production app cause i was so sick of old-java + eclipse... google was asleep at the wheele imo and android development would be nowhere near where it is today without jetbrains

[pjmlp]

Compared to Apple and Microsoft, Android development is mostly outsourced.

None of the development environments is from Google, none of the languages as well, or the build tools for app developers (Internally they use Bazel and Soong).

Naturally having gone into bed with JetBrains for the IDE, after leaving NDK users without IDE tooling for almost two years during the IDE transition, the deal was in place to push Kotlin as well.

I am surprised Google hasn't yet bought JetBrains.

[andrekandre]

  > I am surprised Google hasn't yet bought JetBrains.

same, but i just guess google doesn't know what they would do with them outside of supporting android

  > Compared to Apple and Microsoft, Android development is mostly outsourced.

its true, but i wish apple worked harder on their ide because its so barebones compared to jetbrains its not even funny

[wiseowise]

> I am surprised Google hasn't yet bought JetBrains.

Why would they? It’s the best of both worlds. They can pay a fraction of the price while having 100% of the benefits.

[mike_hearn]

Rumour has it Google tried many times but JetBrains isn't for sale.