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by thebigman433 149 days ago
> Well... yeah, but the Tesla will do that on an empty road, then approach a slow car from behind and make a lane change decision to pass, then take your next exit and continue on through city streets, through all sorts of traffic conditions, to your destination. And it will monitor your attention with eye tracking instead of making you mess with the wheel.

The point is that it now only does that if you subscribe. If I dont want to pay a monthly fee, an economy car now has a better feature set in this area
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ajross 149 days ago
> If I dont want to pay a monthly fee, an economy car now has a better feature set in this area

It's... a car. You already pay a monthly fee. Probably several.

I get the marketing angle here, that this is a bad look and will drive away customers.

I was responding to the attempt upthread (which you just repeated) to conflate it with a technical argument ("better feature set"). The feature set is not worse because it costs money. FSD is in fact market leading.

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digitalPhonix 149 days ago
> It's... a car. You already pay a monthly fee

Eh? Insurance? Registration? Not a fee but ok, ongoing cost. That doesn’t justify more ongoing costs.

> FSD is in fact market leading.

The article and the discussion is about autopilot, not FSD.

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ajross 149 days ago
> That doesn’t justify more ongoing costs.

It makes the idea of a putative consumer who refuses to pay ongoing costs for their car a little silly though. Argue about whether the product value is worth the cost, not from a position of "people won't pay any more for their already extremely expensive vehicles".

> The article and the discussion is about autopilot, not FSD.

The fee under discussion is literally the cost of purchasing an FSD subscription.

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1718627440 148 days ago
I'm not repaying for the same fuel, I am paying for new fuel. I'm not rebuying for the same insurance, I pay for the potential accidents in a time frame. With registration I am paying for the wear I am inflicting on the public roads for a time frame. I expect to own the car and it is staying the same. Paying for it again is called renting.
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