[tra3]

I would gladly pay $99/month if this was honest FSD. I started tracking my time consistently since end of December and in the past 2 weeks I spend 23 hours driving. That's already only $4/hour.

I haven't been keeping up with the progress in this space. Last I heard, Benz introduced some sort of self driving feature AND accepted full liability for it (whereas Tesla does not). How does Benz's self driving compare to Teslas?

[finolex1]

Mercedes' feature has been sunset. It only ever worked in good weather on a limited set of motorways, below a certain speed, and with a guide vehicle in front of it l.

https://www.electrive.com/2026/01/12/mercedes-pauses-level-3...

[starik36]

We've had FSD trial for 4 months in the middle of last year. I work from home so I can't really justify $100 a month. However, we did take a few trips (about 60 miles in each direction) to see family through downtown LA.

I was honestly stunned by how far the tech has come. It basically drove us door to door without a single intervention.

[tra3]

I talked to about 3 people about this that have personal experience with Tesla autopilot and that's been the feedback. So where's the gap? What's the problem?

[starik36]

I don't think there is a problem per se. There are probably still edge cases out there that I didn't experience. But overall, I think the tech is ready to roll.

[drak0n1c]

There are unsupervised HW4 Tesla robotaxis in Austin open to public use as of yesterday. Lemonade Insurance announced an FSD plan where the price is half the market rate while using FSD. So unless there are specific regulatory barriers for personal vehicles unsupervised should be available for their latest gen personal cars sometime this year.

[Mawr]

Oh, but you see, when Mr. Musk said:

'In a post on X.com, Musk said Tesla "started Tesla Robotaxi drives in Austin with no safety monitor in the car. Congrats to the Tesla AI team!"'

He really did mean "in the car". The safety supervisor is still there, just in another car [1], so it's not technically a lie, silly us!

[1]: https://xcancel.com/JoeTegtmeyer/status/2014410572226322794#....

[93po]

are we really to the point of calling someone a liar for something they clearly didn't say and you even quoted?

[tirant]

That’s basically what SAE L3 and above levels of autonomy mean. The manufacturer takes full responsibility of the driving while the function is active.

I drove Mercedes and BMW L3 offering. Both had a really restricted ODD (Operational Design Domain) for it to be of much use outside high traffic situations on an Autobahn. It was restricted to good weather and speeds of around 60km/h. Basic all conditions under which their set of sensors and CPUs would work optimally.

But that was 2021 technology. L4 level of autonomy will be in the market during the next 4/5 years, no doubt. And that will be a game changer for anyone driving any significant amount of time. Sleeping, reading, watching a movie or just working on the laptop will be possible. And the manufacturer will take full responsibility of the driving while the functions are active.

[Auracle]

Benz's full self driving is only up to 40mph and only when it has a car to follow in front of you.

[Nemi]

When you said this, lemming's all jumping off a cliff came to mind...

[tirant]

And temperatures over 0 degrees Celsius with no rain. I tried it.