[whilenot-dev]

> Isn't it sad that we now have Russian, Chinese, American, European, etc alternatives? [...] Shouldn't we rather fight that nationalistic power grab [...]

While I agree with your sentiment, European and nationalistic are two contradicting positions, unlike the other three mentioned superpowers.

[ivan_gammel]

Not really. The forging pan-European nation composed of many nationalities is a thing in all meaningful contexts. European civilization, European economy, European products, European voters etc.

[whilenot-dev]

Not really, no. Europe is neither a sovereign state nor a single political entity. It's a continent composed of many individual nations with a versatile history.

I mean sure, your example shows that the virtue of being "European" represents a certain demographic and a sovereign territory. Again, it's a continent, so what?

[lmf4lol]

yet

[whilenot-dev]

Probably never... European nations rather seem to enjoy forming Unions, Agreements and Organizations.

[lava_pidgeon]

What is nation is not a objective question. People can define Europe as nation and then you can have an nationalistic Europe.

[kergonath]

> People can define Europe as nation and then you can have a nationalistic Europe.

Right, it they do not. You’d have to stretch the definition of nation beyond its breaking point for Europe to be a nation. It would include Russia and Ukraine, Finland and Greece, none of these nations have much in common.

[psychoslave]

That’s just as meaningful in the context as saying that humanity is a nation for some definition of the term.

Europe is many things, but probably a poor base to push any nationalistic aspiration.

[hermanzegerman]

Nobody inside Europe would define Europe as a Nation