[oakesm9]

If you lease a car the owner of the vehicle isn't the driver, but the lease company itself. Tesla was contacted to provide the drivers name (as is their legal obligation) and when they didn't they were fined.

Exactly the same is true if you own the car outright. You as the owner of the vehicle will be contacted and asked to provide the details of the person who was driving at the time.

[short_sells_poo]

I just realized something: doesn't this allow the actual drivers to escape the non-monetary penalties?

In the UK, if a driver is caught speeding, they'll (generally) also get points on their license and after accumulating 12 points, they'll (generally) lose their license for a while. Points decay on some frequency which I forget.

Anyway, what's to stop someone from driving a company car and then just paying the fines via the company and refusing the name the driver?

[mschuster91]

> Anyway, what's to stop someone from driving a company car and then just paying the fines via the company and refusing the name the driver?

In Germany when that happens and the company cannot (or does not want to) name the driver... they may get ordered by the authority to keep a logbook. And such an order shows up at any police checkpoint - and if the cops run the plate, they will ask for the logbook. And check the logbook. And if the logbook isn't up to speed... that means some hefty fines.

[Y-bar]

Germany isn’t required to keep a log book? In Netherlands we had to keep details on clock, distance, driver, and reason for all use of the company vehicles.

[wakawaka28]

They need to change their system to add a layer of indirection for leases, or a second field to record the lessee.