[danielhep]

This problem, along with general annoyances at Proton’s lack of focus on a good email experience pushed me over the edge to move to Fastmail. I’m so much happier. Proton Mail Bridge would often pin one core of my laptop CPU, draining my battery, and it was still slow to sync new email. With Fastmail, incoming mail is so fast that the verification codes are already there before I can alt tab over.

[cyrialize]

Fastmail is awesome! I've been a happy user for a long time. Everything just works. The UI is great, nothing gets in my way.

I'm a fan of the randomly generated emails as well. That service integrates with 1Password too.

[joshuat]

The 1P integration is a pretty compelling feature

[StrangeSound]

I'm in the same boat. I think part of that is Proton is spread across a huge suite of products and features, whereas Fastmail is specialised in one.

[Cthulhu_]

It feels like Proton is trying to build a solid Europe-based alternative to Microsoft 365, which is necessary but also very ambitious and expensive.

[throwaway173738]

Proton’s pricing is really frustrating for me because I want to buy upgrades to only a few services like Pass and email. Your only option on their service is to select either Pass or Mail. You cannot buy both and you will be downgraded on one if you try to buy the other.

[jnurmine]

Doesn't Proton Unlimited have both?

[chrisjj]

> Fastmail is specialised in one.

Sadly untrue since they added calendar. However I'd would say the email service and support remain excellent regardless.

[DerArzt]

Email and calendar go together like bread and butter.

[gassi]

I wouldn't use one without the other, which is how they won my business.

[chrisjj]

Fair enough. I for one would have preferred FM put that effort into fixing issues I have with the email.

[Avamander]

They really haven't improved Mail in a long time now. Still can't use your own keys, still can't have a clean unmangled export, still can't send using your own keys.

It's almost like Protonmail is intentionally hostile to key management outside of their control.

[devnullbrain]

I had the same problems with Bridge 5 years ago - what platform is it still needed on?

[nonninz]

I may be in the same boat.

Is Fastmail an US company though?

[elashri]

They solely use US servers [1] and don't have plans to offer EU or any non-US servers though.

[1] https://old.reddit.com/r/fastmail/comments/1jbryai/european_...

[BoboDupla]

Fastmail is an Australian company.

[hn111]

Same here, I've found too many bugs in Proton's email client and instead of fixing them they just release new products. FastMail support has been great, I think the developers themselves reply (some of the?) emails, going into technical details and being actually helpful.

[chrisjj]

> FastMail support has been great

Seconded, failing only when up against tricky issues like insecurity of their so-called secure Masked Email.

[qaz_plm]

I’m a heavy user of masked emails from Fastmail. Can you expound on the insecurity you mentioned?

[chrisjj]

"WARNING: Fastmail Masked Email insecurity" https://www.emaildiscussions.com/showthread.php?t=81287

[qaz_plm]

Appreciate the follow up!

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