[skrebbel]

Nadella more than 10x'ed the value of Microsoft. I doubt many MS execs think it was the wrong call to move Windows work to the B team.

EDIT: somehow people seem to think I'm defending MS here. I'm not, I'm concurring that MS willingly turned Windows to shit (by moving it to the B team) because they thought they could earn more money elsewhere (and they were right). I don't like it, but I bet the people who got filthy rich over it do.

[honeycrispy]

That mindset is why every tech product is turning to shit. They're not consumer focused. All Nadella cares about is making the stock price go up and extracting value.

[2OEH8eoCRo0]

At some point we went through the looking glass where the stock is the product.

Is this a new phenomena? Stocks aren't new. Why is the modern market treated like this? Did Henry Ford make his vehicles shitter to increase his stock value?

[pseudalopex]

Companies with insufficient competition treated customers badly always. Antitrust enforcement weakened since the 1970s. And investors demanded short term gains.

[cornonthecobra]

It's the private equity era. Much like how legislative behaviour is now dictated by the wealthy even to the point of contradicting the will/desire of informed voters, corporate behaviour is now dictated by private equity investment to the point of contradicting the demand from informed user/consumers.

[M95D]

> Did Henry Ford make his vehicles shitter to increase his stock value?

You should really really read about Dodge vs. Ford case. It all started with that case.

[emchammer]

It’s the same with Apple. Sure, their product is proprietary, but the producers are not the only ones with a stake in it.

[yndoendo]

Stock price does not equal good software. Quite the opposite because your trying to exploit the end user for more profit.

[ranger_danger]

I'm assuming they were referring to a non-monetary goal.

[agildehaus]

Through Azure, Office, LinkedIn, gaming. Not so much Windows.

[jack_pp]

They're fucking up even gaming, that awful gamebar is a pain to disable. Had to do it from powershell and even after it's gone Alt + W won't work in games.

[306bobby]

I have a de-bloated win11 build running on my gaming rig, and I still occasionally get the prompt "no program to open link: ms-gamebar://" or something similar

[skrebbel]

Indeed! That's why they moved Windows to the B team.

[cadamsdotcom]

Sorry you’re getting downvoted. Ideally downvoting would be for unconstructive posts, or posts with good info / good contributions that are presented unconstructively.

You’re just being controversial.

That’s not a strong enough reason to downvote someone.

[honeycrispy]

Thanks for pointing this out. I don't participate in HN discussions like I used to because the HN crowd and I don't agree on much, and down-votes is not an engaging counter-point.

[cadamsdotcom]

It’s possible the HN crowd has more lurkers lately with things getting more controversial.. maybe seeing your voice more would help bring balance.

After all, you might be part of a silent majority!

[skrebbel]

Fwiw I think it’s perfectly fine if people downvote me if they disagree with me. I think that’s an unavoidable effect of having up/down arrows, regardless of what the rules say. If i say something controversial I expect some downvotes. I just hadn't expressed myself clearly enough initially, everybody took me as a “money makes right” capitalist (not a weird assumption, theres plenty of those here on HN) and fortunately could still edit to clarify.