[jack_pp]

Instead of being the architect, engineer, plumber, electrician, carpenter you can (most of the time) just be the architect/planner. You for sure need to know how everything works in case LLMs mess the low level stuff up but it sure is nice not needing to lay bricks and dig ditches anymore and just build houses.

[discreteevent]

It won't turn most people into architects. It will turn them into PMs. The function of PMs is important but without engineers you are not going to build a sustainable system. And an LLM is not an engineer.

[jack_pp]

If you already are an engineer it frees you up to be an architect.

If you aren't, then sure you'll be a PM with a lackluster team of engineers.

LLMs can engineer small well defined functions / scripts rather well in my experience. Of course it helps to be able to understand what it outputs and prod it to engineer it just the way you want it. Still faster than me writing it from scratch, most of the time. And even if it's the same time as me doing it from scratch it feels easier so I can do more without getting tired.

[deuplonicus]

And if you are already an architect - you are likely planning to start a business

It just feels like AI upskills everyone a little.

[iugtmkbdfil834]

I don't think it is automatically accurate. I would be curious to learn how you arrived at that conclusion. What I seem to be seeing is that actual impact depends heavily on the person involved. Curious people dig in and even when lulled into copy/paste, they can usually snap out of it. But what do we do about those, who just want an answer, any answer..

[Capricorn2481]

> It won't turn most people into architects. It will turn them into PMs

That sounds awful. Every PM I've ever met, I did their job for them. They did nothing. And I've met some heavy hitter PMs with a lot of stripes and recommendations.

The job of being a PM is over-exaggerated. It boils down to writing things down and bringing them up later. Something I ended up doing for them, because they didn't know enough to know what to write down. Their skills are interviewing well and drinking beers with important people.

So what you said is a dreadful future, if true.

And side note, my last PM didn't even take notes, he had AI do it for him. They were always wrong. I had to correct them constantly.

[gogopromptless]

You've described PMs running circles around you and you still can't see it. They didn't need to praise you or pressure you. They seem to have all caught on that your button is let you feel smarter than them. You did their job, did a bunch of physical typing they would otherwise have to do themselves, and walked away thinking you won.

Meanwhile they're pulling the same or greater comp, working half the hours, and "drinking beers with important people" is an accepted part of their job. The status hierarchy you're describing where they suck isn't real. It's a useful fiction that keeps you grinding while they harvested your output.

Everyone becoming a PM is a good thing precisely because PMs don't work as hard. Wouldn't a job be more pleasant if you could meet expectations by lunch? Imagine how psychologically freeing that would be. Dreadful future my ass.

[Capricorn2481]

Considering every time they left not a single thing changed, as though they were never there, because I was the one actually organizing the projects, I doubt they were running circles around me. Likely dicking around with Jira for 5 hours to siphon money from our company instead of actually organizing the project.

> Meanwhile they're pulling the same or greater comp, working half the hours, and "drinking beers with important people" is an accepted part of their job

You took the words right out of my mouth. Almost like it's a made up job and not the real work that needs to get done.