[rcbdev]

I don't think U.S.-Americans would be quite so fond of this mindset if every nation and people their government needlessly destroyed thought this way.

Doesn't matter if it happened through collusion with foreign threats such as Israel or direct military engagements.

[yakshaving_jgt]

Somehow I don’t get the impression that US soldiers killed in the Middle East are stoking American bloodlust.

Conversely, russian soldiers are here in Ukraine today, murdering Ukrainians every day. And then when I visit, for example, a tech conference in Berlin, there are somehow always several high-powered nerds with equal enthusiasm for both Rust and the hammer and sickle, who believe all defence tech is immoral, and that forcing Ukrainian men, women, and children to roll over and die is a relatively more moral path to peace.

[qweiopqweiop]

It's an easy and convenient position. War is bad, maybe my government is bad, ergo they shouldn't have anything to do with it.

Too much of the western world has lived through a period of peace that goes back generations, so probably think things/human nature has changed. The only thing that's really changed is Nuclear weapons/MAD - and I'm sorry Ukraine was made to give them up without the protection it deserved.