[ss1996]

I agree with the risks, the overall theme being it's much easier to potentially manipulate a million internet votes than physical. In other worlds, internet vote manipulation scales significantly more than physical.

But I could make the argument with any high trust internet system.

Let's take another high trust activity we do on the internet - banking. Internet banking gives a hacker the ability to steal millions while sitting across the world. This is the same argument the authors make about changing a million votes.

So it really comes down to the pros vs cons. That's the more important discussion imo.

Do the benefits of internet voting outweigh the cons?

[iamnothere]

Unless you’re talking about crypto, your internet banking hacker will not get away with anything significant. You can’t just “hack the bank” and take a million dollars. Banks only transfer funds digitally to one another by agreement through systems like SWIFT, and these transactions are traceable and reversible. Changing some ones and zeros in your account and then attempting to withdraw it all would raise a ton of flags, and you would need to breach an unrealistic number of systems and processes to make it possible.

At best you might be able to scam someone into sending you a few hundred dollars via Zelle. Some scam centers do this 24/7, but it isn’t that easy, and apparently they rely on human trafficking to acquire free labor.

The complex systems backing internet banking (including the people and processes) are immense in scale. They evolved over decades and were honed and improved as real problems occurred. Needless to say, there is no room for iterative trial and error in elections.

If you hack the bank you get very little, at least today. If you hack an election you get everything. No thanks. No to electronic voting.

[hydrox24]

> Let's take another high trust activity we do on the internet - banking. Internet banking gives a hacker the ability to steal millions while sitting across the world. This is the same argument the authors make about changing a million votes.

Bank fraud happens all of the time and at scale. However, it is entirely insurable and reversible.

Election fraud is not reversible. Trust cannot be restored in the way that a bank account can.

[bschwindHN]

Internet banking is not anonymized. Voting should be.