[brokencode]

You are exposing your lack of learning how to use the tools.

Tools like GitHub copilot can access the CLI. It can look up commands for you. Whatever you do in the terminal, it can do.

You can encode common instructions and info in AGENTS.md to say how and where to look up this info. You can describe what tools you expect it to use.

There are MCPs to help hook up other sources of context and info the model can use as well.

These are the things you need to learn to make effective use of the technology. It’s not as easy as going to ChatGPT and asking a question. It just isn’t.

Too many people never get past this low level of knowledge, then blame the tool.

[kemotep]

I hate that Microsoft did this but I meant Microsoft 365 Copilot. Not Github Copilot. The Copilot I am talking about does not have those capabilities.

[brokencode]

GitHub Copilot has a free tier as well. The $20/month one gives you much better models though.

All I’m saying is that the vast majority of people who say that AI dev tools don’t work and are a waste of time/money don’t know how and really haven’t even made a serious attempt at learning how to use them.

[3vidence]

To be fair there seems to be a weird dissonance between the marketing (fire your workers because AI can do everything now) and the reality (actually you need to spend time and effort and expertise to setup a good environment for AI tools and monitor them).

So when people just Yolo the ladder they don't get the results they expect.

I'm personally in the middle, chat interface + scripts seems to be the best for my productivity. Agentic stuff feels like a rabbit hole to me.

[kemotep]

Well I am not a dev so I am just using the freely available search assist and chatbots. I am not saying the dev tools don’t work; I am saying the chatbot makes up fake PowerShell commands. If the dev tool version is better it still seems significantly less efficient and more expensive than just running “Get-Help” in the terminal from my perspective.

[brokencode]

You are not disproving my point. You are just repeating that you don’t want to try to learn how you can actually use AI tools to help you work, but yet you still want to complain online that they are a waste of time and money.

[rootnod3]

I tried. Several times. Just quick prompting, full agentic, and all I see as a result is mostly garbage to be honest. Not even talking about the atrophy one would get skill-wise by relying on AI tools all the time.