[PlatoIsADisease]

The Copernican Revolution (discovery earth was not at the center of the solar system) initially had worse empirical calculations because they didn't know planets traveled in ellipses.

The moments after the revolution might be worse, but in the long term, we got better.

[chrisjj]

> The Copernican Revolution

Let's not forget this characterisation appeared only centuries later, and without concensus.

[Forgeties79]

We can pick the best and worst examples all day, but it’s not very productive IMO.

[naasking]

It could be if it actually lets us calibrate our credence of your original claim that most revolutions have resulted in a lot of death for little benefit. If the worst examples are much worse than the best examples, or vice versa, then we can plausibly conclude whether you are at least directionally correct.

[Forgeties79]

You don’t take the single best and single worst examples of a thing that has occurred thousands of times to determine if the results are more positive or negative on average.

[naasking]

That depends entirely on the specifics. If the worst revolution killed 20 people and the best led to the Enlightenment, scientific progress, vaccines, etc., you absolutely can judge your claim's merits, even if there were 10,000 examples of those bad revolutions and only 1 example of a good revolution.

[Forgeties79]

Do you think this is a productive exercise and we are going to A) answer this and/or B) glean anything from it? This back and forth feels does not feel productive, unless we want to playfully and in good faith game out how this could maybe be done.