[x187463]

Of all the current US conspiracy theories, the UFO/UAP conspiracy is still the most interesting and fully developed/ongoing conspiracy space. Just check out the recent 'Age of Disclosure' documentary from this year.

I'm not arguing a position on the theory, just saying it's very active and has the old-school qualities that were present in the 90's.

[RajT88]

There's some genuinely weird shit unexplained, I'll give you that. Unlike Bigfoot, where you can look at a map of the historical range of bears and see it exactly matches where all the Bigfoot sightings are.

[Bratmon]

I dunno. I think the fact that these sightings are always from sleep deprived individuals describing things at the far end of their range of detection (whether that's 5 miles away with the Mk 1 eyeball or 500 miles away with classified superradar) suggests a pretty clear pattern.

[RajT88]

It probably is both. Up for debate the ratio.

[nephihaha]

People claim to see Bigfoot creatures in the Mississippi Delta and Florida... Even Scotland. None of these are much noted for their bears.

[Jtsummers]

> the Mississippi Delta and Florida... Even Scotland. None of these are much noted for their bears.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_black_bear

The US South has bears.

[RajT88]

There are some outliers (like Hawaii, or the 2 sightings in my local forest preserve) which cannot be bears, but what you will find is there is way more bear populations wandering around than you realize.

The trend is pretty clear.

[nephihaha]

People claim to see these things in Australia and New Zealand. Not many bears round there. I don't count koalas in Oz as bears.

[ninninninnin]

You forget about drop bears

[betty_staples]

>I'm not arguing a position on the theory, just saying it's very active and has the old-school qualities that were present in the 90's.

Just to go off of this.. I'm not saying it was aliens.... but it was aliens.

https://www.dictionary.com/culture/memes/ancient-aliens

[nephihaha]

Pilots from the Eastern Bloc and NATO countries have had sightings. It's not just a US thing. People have been claiming to see them for longer than the USA has existed.

[scottLobster]

Not to be that guy, but if the majority of sightings coming from nations capable of producing advanced military aircraft... well perhaps the aliens thought the F-15 was badass and wanted a closer look?

[ErroneousBosh]

You know when you pass a nice classic car reeeeally slowly so you can get a good look? Aw yeah, don't see many of those, do you?

[nephihaha]

US sightings get publicised best due to the nature of international media (wide distribution of US films, TV and books)... But there certainly are other places claiming to see them. There are a lot of supposed sightings in Chile for example, which doesn't have a huge air force.

[steve1977]

IMHO, the whole social/psychological aspect of the "conspiracy" or phenomenom or whatever you want to call it is at least as interesting as the phenomenon itself.

[lagniappe]

It's not a conspiracy anymore

[thatguy0900]

I'd really like to see it disclosed by a government that isn't panicking about epstein files/being impeached and trying to cover up other stories before I'm fully convinced

[nephihaha]

I would be more interested in the former USSR or China, maybe Iran and Latin America. The Eastern Bloc must have covered up a lot of stuff but would have wild stories.

[pixl97]

I mean this is a meta-conspiracy in itself. I don't think you're incorrect/wrong, but using one conspiracy theory to hide a conspiracy with lots of evidence is interesting.