[josephg]

At its heart, this is about Europe for Europe. People from other countries “contributing” technology solutions to European businesses and government is what got Europe into the strange mess they’re in now. And there’s been a long line of foreign - American - businesses which have promised that European data will always stay on European soil. And it’s quite clear that promise was not always kept.

I’m sure your desire to help is genuine. But Europe might need to find their own feet with an initiative like this before accepting help from foreigners.

[whizzter]

I'd look at it in another way, hyperscalers exist due to code contributed from all around the world, often in the form of open source, Europe going closed and competing against the rest of the world (literally) isn't going to be a path forward.

Clients of mine are on hyperscalers due to the ease of deployment,etc but they are focused on lock-in, if ease could be attained in combination with portability then an ecosystem could exist where mid-scaler providers (that exists in abundance in Europe) could have a better chance against the behemoths.

[boilerupnc]

I believe this is one of the drivers for IBM Sovereign Core Announcement recently [0].

“ Technically, IBM Sovereign Core builds on open-source technology from the Red Hat ecosystem. The software uses OpenShift, among other things, and is designed to run on existing infrastructure. Organizations can deploy the platform in on-premises data centers, regional cloud environments, or through local service providers.”

* Disclaimer: I’m an IBMer

[0]. https://www.techzine.eu/news/privacy-compliance/137981/ibm-l...

[josephg]

> Europe going closed and competing against the rest of the world (literally) isn't going to be a path forward.

Yes, I think this might be the actual way to help. Write opensource software that can be used by everyone. Including commercial products in the EU.

Google, Microsoft and Amazon have a moat because of how difficult it is to build viable competitors to their products. I'd love to see more opensource libraries and applications chip away at this. How hard would it be to build a self hosted google docs competitor?

[philipallstar]

> People from other countries “contributing” technology solutions to European businesses and government is what got Europe into the strange mess they’re in now.

Well, if Europe existed without them, then Europe likely wouldn't have ever home-grown all the advances from the more entrepreneurially-minded countries.