[bux93]

Weird. Seems to work for Airbus, Allianz, BASF, E.ON, Fresenius, LVMH Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton (and its subsidiary Dior), SAP, Schneider Electric, TotalEnergies, Unibail-Rodamco-Westfield and Vonovia.

Of course, that's the existing pan-European SE which is a public company. Needs like a few sentences changed in the existing regulation to extend that to private companies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societas_Europaea

[neximo64]

This is very different. In a SE these are incorporated and sponsored by the member state. It is like each country making an equivalent copy of the same thing.

The EU-INC is EU designated without a sponsor, which is not permissible under EU law other than for the EU institutions themselves. This is one of the red lines for the design of the EU legally speaking

[bux93]

An SE is incorporated under EU law, and it has a headoffice registered in a member state - and that registration can be moved to another member state. Like GDPR, the relevant law is an EU "regulation" and not a directive. Directives need to be implemented in local laws, regulations apply directly (local laws may fill in details as long as they don't contradict or restrict the regulation, except of course where the regulation explicitely allows derogation). https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL...

What do you mean by "sponsored by the member state"? Can you point to the exact regulation, treaty or directive that imposes this requirement?

[neximo64]

This is the basic Maastricht treaty. You cannot make EU law in France without France creating it not as EU law, but as French law. A SE or EU-INC would have to exist within this construct.

The only exception to a legal entity are the EU entities themselves which are supranational.

This is what most people don't understand with the EU, that there is a very specific process to create law and limitations on what it can do. It isn't like the US and the EU isn't a country. I may appreciate you might be European but even within Europe the detail with it is where it matters.

[bux93]

Article 288 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union "A regulation shall have general application. It shall be binding in its entirety and directly applicable in all Member States." - for example, GDPR.

But even if this were implemented using a Directive (note: the SE is created in a Regulation, that's the link in my previous comment), this still would not mean that the law or the directive would necessarily need to require a company to be "sponsored" by a specific state - whatever that means. (Again, it would help if you'd define "sponsor" with a specific legal reference.)

And even then, Von der Leyen could have been talking about changing the TFEU treaty itself, which is ambitious but certainly not impossible. But again, I see no reason why this can't be done in a regular fashion, just like the already extant SE Regulation.