[pclalv]

I have similar reservations that this expresses, and it leaves me wondering as to what kind of person is suited for this kind of environment. Perhaps that's a pointless question, although I think that there is at least one useful answer to it: I'm not the kind of person who's suited to those environment. I'm not well-suited to take such a huge chunk of my life and basically throwing it away by creating a barrier between it and my emotional life; I find it difficult to imagine even asking another human to do such a thing, and wonder how 'natural' it is to members of a species that evolved without such artificial separations between work and emotions and life.

[WalterBright]

Throughout the vast arc of human existence, you worked or you died. Nature does not hand you food, shelter, clothing, and flush toilets for free. Most of us, if dropped naked into the wilderness, will die within 24 hours.

Bone evidence from colonial America is the colonists worked like dogs and died young. Bone evidence from the Indians showed repeated famines.

[Nevermark]

Generally speaking, the clan you worked to survive with generally didn't cancel you because a seashell currency accountant saw some tangential benefit for a moment. Which might just be their own survival need to look busy or be a perforative hard ass, to avoid the same thing.

The loyalty you are dismissing as unnatural, was painstakingly discovered by our genes, precisely because it maximized survival in our natural environment.

[WalterBright]

If you didn't find your work in the clan to be emotionally fulfilling, and stopped working, the clan would not be likely to share the food with you.

[Nevermark]

Yes, that would be an expected and natural outcome.

[danielmarkbruce]

You've misunderstood what the person is saying.

[shimman]

Nature also doesn't hand out corporate welfare or export subsidies but some how that's perfectly natural.

[WalterBright]

I thought we were talking about capitalism, not the things government does.

[hackable_sand]

Yeah it's really not that serious

[venturecruelty]

Please tell me who is going to die if I don't push my employer-mandated vibeslop up to GitHub. I'm genuinely curious.

[lurking_swe]

you might enjoy the tv series Severance.

On a more serious note, i personally enjoy it. Why? I find software engineering intellectually stimulating and i enjoy the _process_, but i don’t (usually) enjoy the _people_. There are really only a couple former colleagues I actually keep in touch with. You know - the “real” friends so to speak.

My outside-of-work friends are not nerdy like myself and that’s why i love them. Keeps me out of my work bubble and also gives me interesting things to do and talk about on the weekends. :)

Everyone is different though. Some people genuinely enjoy going to the pub with their work mates lol. I’d rather do anything else.