[dymk]

Well, the alternatives is Android and... not really much else, for a full-featured smartphone. Say what you will about Apple, they're not perfect, but they have a better track record w.r.t privacy than Google in every way.

I'm not saying I like what Apple is doing here, but I trust Google a lot less with my data.

[abustamam]

There are ways to have full featured smartphones without Google, like Graphene OS.

I am not aware of any alternatives that exist for Apple devices though

[axelthegerman]

This! Sure you might need a Google account for your android but you don't HAVE to use all their services.

First just don't use Gmail, docs, search, chrome and co. But even better get a Pixel with Graphene and Google's invasive tactics are even more limited.

However it is sad that a company like Apple that used to produce superior hardware with superior UX is falling apart on all fronts - hardware (especially pricing), UX (hello glass design), software (macos just getting worse every release without adding ANYTHING of value)

And now introducing more and more ads while keep selling you "pro" laptops with 512GB SSD :-/

[like_any_other]

> you might need a Google account for your android

You don't. LineageOS works without a Google account. I would be surprised if GrapheneOS worked differently.