[yoz-y]

Don’t know if it is the same for everyone. But when I experienced psychosis I definitely thought I was on a “higher plane” of thinking than others. That didn’t help me get a single idea through and of course it was all BS. So no, it definitely is not a desirable state of mind.

[doublerabbit]

I did too, I took a heroic dose of 2C-e stupidity during my teens. Enter psychosis and believed I was somewhere else than earth.

[Aeglaecia]

i don't wish to debate the accuracy of your experience , however i will challenge it a bit - perhaps all psychotics believe they are on a higher plane of thinking , this does not imply that all those on a higher plane of thinking are psychotics

[andsoitis]

What is this higher plane you’re talking about?

[yoz-y]

Don’t know about the parent, but in my experience it was sort of an “extreme introspection”, any thought you have is immediately scrutinized “why did I think about this, is this the right thing to say in this context, what are the implications”. Then of course the thought about thought is also introspected, leading into a spiral of thought that occasionally gets “popped” as a stack. The memory works in a very weird manner where you almost immediately forget a lot of context and then get reminded of it in one go when you “pop” a level.

It is quite hard to imagine, I think, and even myself I can only explain the idea of it but not how it actually felt.

I wouldn’t say this was anything spiritual, rather than the thinking stopped working as a stream of thought but more like a graph traversal.

[doublerabbit]

Astral, Spiritual plane.

The same place that Psychonauts try to reach out too.

[yoz-y]

Fair point, but unless I’m misunderstanding something, that same argument could be applied to your original statement.

[Aeglaecia]

i dont think either of us properly understood the other , perhaps we shall finish this discussion properly another time , all the best until then