[glemion43]

You clearly underestimate the quality of people I have seen and worked with. And yes guard rails can be added easily.

Security is my only concern and for that we have a team doing only this but that's also just a question of time.

Whatever LLMs ca do today doesn't matter. It matters how fast it progresses and we will see if we still use LLMs in 5 years or agi or some kind of world models.

[barishnamazov]

> You clearly underestimate the quality of people I have seen and worked with.

I'm not sure what you're referring to. I didn't say anything about capabilities of people. If anything, I defend people :-)

> And yes guard rails can be added easily.

Do you mean models can be prevented to do dumb things? I'm not too sure about that, unless a strict software architecture is engineered by humans where LLMs simply write code and implement features. Not everything is web development where we can simply lock filesystems and prod database changes. Software is very complex across the industry.

[glemion43]

I know plenty of people who are shittier in writing code than Claude. People with real jobs who are expensive like 50-100k/year.

People whom you have to always handhold and were code review is fundamental.

You can write tests, pr gates etc.

It's still a scale in what you can let them do unsupervised vs controlling them more closely but already better than real people I know. Because they are also a lot faster.

[barishnamazov]

Ah, you meant I overestimate the quality of people, not underestimate. I think that really depends. I have worked with some amazing people :-)

Low quality engineering is always visible to outside. Low quality engineers using LLMs won't get any better.

[glemion43]

That shocked me the most tbh

I had big hopes for one person until he copy pasted verbatim LLM responses to me...

[bdbdbdb]

> You clearly underestimate the quality of people I have seen and worked with

"Humans aren't perfect"

This argument always comes up. The existence of stupid / careless / illiterate people in the workplace doesn't excuse spending trillions on computer systems which use more energy than entire countries and are yet unreliable

[glemion43]

It does.

If you have 1% of them and they cost you 50-100k per year than replacing them with computers make plenty of sense.