[lurk2]

Tangential to the article but I’m on year 6 of waiting for the alternative smartphone market to offer what I’m actually looking for and here seems as good a place as any to complain about it:

I just want a screen with a headphone jack and a web browser on a device that isn’t serviced by Apple or Google.

I don’t even care about having the battery being removable. It doesn’t even have to be able to make phone calls.

I’m getting ready to go back to a dumbphone and digital camera because no one is making what I’m looking for, and it sort of seems like they never will.

[usrnm]

> web browser on a device that isn’t serviced by Apple or Google

Which browser though? But what you're describing sounds a lot like a Linux tablet, which do exist: https://itsfoss.com/linux-tablets/

[mixmastamyk]

Most of those are suboptimal, go straight to the starlite.

[SSLy]

https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_10_v-12264.php + https://docs.sailfishos.org/Support/Supported_Devices/

[lurk2]

This looks promising. Is the camera any good?

[1317]

https://amateurphotographer.com/review/sony-xperia-10-v-revi... https://www.expertreviews.co.uk/technology/phones/sony-xperi... looks nice enough

[lurk2]

Cheers.

[SSLy]

it has OIS at the very least, which is something. But you'll always would better be served by a dedicated camera if you really care about pushing photos.

EDIT: jolla also sells this, has a jack https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-community-phone

[hengheng]

Goalpost move detected.

[lurk2]

I’d also like the phone’s browser to allow me to filter inane comments on Hacker News but I don’t know if the technology is there yet.

[darkwater]

Well, to be fair they did mention "digital camera" in their initial message, but I would agree that it sounds like a goalpost move indeed.

[hans_castorp]

I was going to refer to the new Jolla Phone, but then I realized that it doesn't have a headphone jack.

[mixmastamyk]

Furiphone lost theirs as well.