[diffs]

And the response to this brutal crackdown from our brave and virtuous progressive activists has been a collective shrug of indifference, with some exceptions where those pillars of moral rectitude have taken a bold stance... in support of the fascist theocracy that has massacred its own people.

[AuthAuth]

During the Gaza conflict it was highly suspected most of the outrage was manufactured by organized propaganda networks and spread into the mainstream. During this conflict and the Sudan conflict we can see it confirmed, zero attention in the mainstream because its missing the influence of an organized propaganda network creating, disseminating, legitimizing and boosting a narrative. Isreal and the CIA are terrible at modern day youth propaganda they should boosting this like crazy.

[arresin]

Shalom!

You don’t think it was the genocide, starvation and mass murder of over 70,000 civilians in carpet bombings. Or the mass torture and rape?

Israel is absolutely drowning in blood and human misery. It gobbles it up. It relishes it. There’s really no need to manufacture outrage.

[AuthAuth]

70,000 civilians carpet bombed, this is the kind of warped reality that people live in when they only consume propaganda.

[dominicrose]

The people who kill iranians are the same who finance hamas. Think it's easy to eliminate hamas without hurting civilians? I've heard there was no carpet bombing.

[midlander]

If you prick Iranians do they not bleed?

Anyone who has selective outrage about the suffering of innocents does not actually care about the suffering of innocents.

[ungreased0675]

I’m not sure why and I’ve never heard it articulated, but based on overwhelming evidence, progressives will not criticize Islam, Islamic regimes, or cultural practices.

[leosanchez]

> but based on overwhelming evidence, progressives will not criticize Islam, Islamic regimes, or cultural practices.

Same observation from my third world country

[dismalaf]

Iran literally funds Hamas and adjacent orgs.

[owebmaster]

You took 25 days to post your first comment? And a very divisive one at that?

[diffs]

I feel strongly about this issue. I don't feel it's divisive, it might be dismissive but my point in the comment is factual.

Edit: Take a look at The Intercept as an example. Protests began three weeks ago. The only posts TI has on Iran basically amount to "Israel bad" and "Son of Shah likes Israel and Israel is bad, therefore son of Shah is bad". That's it. This is a moral failure of the highest order and it underscores, for me at least, that most of these faux-progressives' activism is purely performative.

[camgunz]

You politely left out "overtly anti-Semitic"

[chaps]

I get you -- when I was doing investigative reporting about policing and technology, the Intercept's energy was basically "great pitch, but we want you to do 8mo more work before we'll talk; good luck not being able to afford rent in the meantime".

But, friend, with love -- shit talking about what people are doing or not doing is not the answer. Lead by example.

[diffs]

> But, friend, with love -- shit talking about what people are doing or not doing is not the answer. Lead by example.

Why do you assume I'm not doing? Having said that, my options are limited to obtaining the lion and sun flag and participating in a demonstration. Quiet solidarity in other words. Shit talking about people who have a platform and are not using it because Israel is absolutely valid and legitimate.

That by the way is the danger with a singular obsession with one conflict, which, objectively, is not even the deadliest conflict in its region, let alone the world. Everything is either viewed through the Israel prism, as in "we're not going to express any solidarity with Iranian protesters because the fall of the theocracy might benefit Israel", or, it gets ignored entirely because there's no clout to be gained on social media.

[chaps]

Just to be clear, I never said I disagreed with you. But I've seen a lot of infighting happening in these spaces that stems from shit talking -- people who can no longer work together anymore because of how the shit talking bifurcated the work instead of building layers between.

[ost-ing]

> This is a moral failure of the highest order and it underscores, for me at least, that most of these faux-progressives' activism is purely performative.

It is worse than that. Faux-progressives will also play into antisemitic conspiratorial tropes that this was all perfectly and precisely planned.

[AlecSchueler]

Wouldn't your energy be better spent doing what you think the should be doing rather than complaining about them not doing what you think they should be? Take some agency in the world.

[mindslight]

If you hadn't noticed we've got our own fascist theocracy attacking its own people in the western world. We're trying to avoid giving it any more energy with vaguely-defined popular policy goals. And staying out of another country's affairs, regardless of how evil those affairs are, is a valid moral pillar.

Now perhaps there is an interesting academic discussion about whether if we had done more to direct Demented Donnie towards Iran, that he wouldn't be attacking the rest of NATO trying to steal Greenland to create some dipshit's idea of a legacy. But that is hardly definitive with the kind of moral clarity that you're asserting.