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by edent 153 days ago
Why is your need for silence more important than other people's need to communicate?
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Neither of those things are needs, it’s just wants and preferring your own wants over others is completely normal.

Imagine trying to live your life where other people’s desires by default overrode you own.

Because silence is a common good, like clean air. It's everyone's. When people fill it with their noise they effectively privatize it for the duration. When they shout on speakerphone or play their music or blare sound from their apps it's especially selfish.
Imagine trying to live your life where other people’s desires by default overrode you own.

Unfortunately that happens a lot; it's called the government.

Collective vs individuals desires
Collectivism killed hundreds of millions of people, so I'll take individualism thanks.
It's actually against byelaws to play music or other loud sounds on transport in London and they can prosecute you if they so wished...

It's about acknowledging it's a shared resource and respecting the space. No loud noises, no littering, no being drunk etc

These days people act like they're the only ones travelling

Looks like TFL issued a whopping three fines in total last year...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdx4lje9jpjo

I know, it's pathetic. It's partly because they don't want to pay for the staff to do the enforcement and partly probably some other reasons.

In classic British style they just try to influence and nudge people with campaigns and posters. That way the organisation doesn't have to deal with awkward accusations of racism etc

Etiquette. Some are raised with it.
Simply being polite. Understanding there are other people in the world you inhabit. Things like that.
They can use headphones. The problem is listening to someone scroll through tiktok with volume on max.
Their silence disrupts no one, but one call or loud song disrupts 20-40 people their peace.

Don't be a douche.

You’re be a bit contrarian there and I’m quite sure you actually believe it’s far more nuanced than that
You do understand that one of those “needs”affects others around you, and one of them leaves them in peace, right? Also I’m sure parent wasn’t referring to emergency calls