[leptons]

>Windows makes up less than 10% of Microsoft's revenue now. Server and Cloud and Office 365 make up the bulk of their income now.

That isn't how you compare things. Server is separate from "Cloud" which is separate from Office 365 which is separate from Windows.

And Windows still makes them ~$28 billion a year, Azure makes then 3x that, but $28 billion is nothing to take for granted. It wouldn't matter if Azure made $150 billion/year, it doesn't make $28 billion look like pocket change.

[9JollyOtter]

> That isn't how you compare things.

I compared once segment of the business to others. Several other websites had various estimates on what percentage of the business Windows took up. Most of them said 6-10%, so I took 10%. Other websites group server and cloud, A rough guesstimate for a comment on a discussion thread is good enough. I was't aware I would need to go through the 10Q filings to satisfy you.

The point being communicated (even with your ridiculous nitpicks about the stats) is that Windows isn't a cash cow it once was. Microsoft Strategy is not Windows focused like it was under Ballmer.

[leptons]

$28 billion is definitely "a cash cow", no matter how many other "cash cows" they have.

[9JollyOtter]

My original comment:

> The fact is that Windows isn't the cash cow it used to be for Microsoft

My second to you:

> Windows isn't a cash cow it once was

You really need to learn how to read or all you are doing is arguing about semantics.

[leptons]

Yeah, you're still just wrong.

In the 1990s Windows brought in $1.2 billion. In the 2010s, it brought in about $14 billion. In 2022 it was $24.8 billion, and in 2024, it was $29.1 billion.

So your assumption that Windows is somehow "not the cash cow it once was" is false. It's bringing in more money than it ever did before.

Windows definitely is still very much a "cash cow" for Microsoft. And they can have more than one "cash cow", they can have as many as they want and it wouldn't make Windows any less of a "cash cow".

[9JollyOtter]

> Yeah, you're still just wrong.

No. All you are doing is engaging in semantic wankery.

> So your assumption that Windows is somehow "not the cash cow it once was" is false. It's bringing in more money than it ever did before.

What don't you understand about being a smaller percentage of their business as a whole?

My entire point that it has gone from the basically a 30% (~2010) of the revenue to less than 10%. Therefore they are simply not going to care about it as much, because their strategy is basically to push as much as possible into the cloud.

Saying they make more money with that now, when the growth compared to other parts of the business is low is missing the point.

[leptons]

>"No. All you are doing is engaging in semantic wankery."

I'm not the one who first used the term "cash cow" here. It apparently doesn't mean what you think it means.

If you look up the definition, you will find this:

    "a business, investment, or product that provides a steady income or profit."

Windows definitely falls under that definition. This isn't "semantic wankery". Next time you want to use a colloquialism, make sure you look it up first.

>Therefore they are simply not going to care about it as much, because their strategy is basically to push as much as possible into the cloud.

Microsoft Windows still dominates the OS market. MacOS will never achieve anything close to Windows, never has, never will. Windows is Microsoft's bottom bitch, it's not going to be forgotten as you think it will.

Feel free to quit this conversation at any time.