[ecshafer]

I have seen fights break out in the subway over people being loud. People playing loud music in public often seem to be the types to be looking for trouble, they want someone to tell them to turn it down, so they can say no and escalate. In a lot of cities this is a big risk.

[boarsofcanada]

To this point, there have been at least a few stories of elderly people being beaten on San Francisco public transit for politely asking people to turn their music down.

[tkel]

OK, I read about someone being murdered by their spouse. That doesn't mean it is going to happen to me. The media reports on sensational stories. That doesn't make them normal.

[bobbylarrybobby]

You tend to know your spouse, you don't know the mental state of people on the train. Especially people who have already demonstrated they don't care about social norms or preserving tranquility in public spaces.

[hackable_sand]

How do any of you actually function in society?

Public music should be celebrated. This is someone sharing a cultural touchstone and y'all just want to be antisocial robots.

[boarsofcanada]

Someone blaring their choice of music in a public space at 90 dB is a “cultural touchstone”?

I don’t drive, I take public transit daily, and am old enough to remember when you would never experience anything like this (even in the heyday of boom boxes in the 80s). So yeah I’m not convinced it’s a “me” problem.

And returning to the point, if you asked someone 30 years ago to turn their music down they would either comply or say something nasty - not physically assault you.

[hackable_sand]

Act your age then. Fucking ridiculous.

[tombert]

I remember one guy had a whole DJ setup on the subway once. Like he had a table, a laptop, several large speakers, a microphone, monitor headphones, the works. He would have been right at home DJing a kids birthday party.

The music he was playing was ridiculously bad. Obviously subjective but this was such terrible low effort stuff that I am not sure it would even make it to SoundCloud. Think “your stoner friend’s demo tape you try to listen to but can’t get more than three minutes in”

We were in a long tunnel and he turned the volume up, which I don’t think anyone wanted. I yell over the speaker and say he should that shit off. He said people here want it, to which I say “no they actually don’t. See how everyone here has headphones on? If your music was any good you wouldn’t have to force people to listen to it as hostages. If you want to actually test this then go to Washington Square Park, not the fucking train”.

He called me an asshole, turned the music even louder, and kept it going until I left the train. I don’t think he agreed with my reasoning.

[tptacek]

This app is even more hostile.

[ecshafer]

The app is more hostile, I agree. Its a bad idea, and a good way to get beaten up.