[throwawayqqq11]

Why are you complaining so much about the past?

The tragedies unfolding today could have been prevented, with a little human dignity. Speaking of "illegal immigrants" to justify destroying lifes that in some cases had been spent entirely in the US is just that, a cheap blanket to cover inhumane and racist motives. The strawmen you create with "why is no other country allowed to have a border" are as disgusting as your silence to the most pressing current issues. Trump had many options to tighten the grip on immigrants, but i guess this is beyond you aswell.

Please answer me this one. Why is the crime of comming here illegally enough for your kind and nothing else matters? Please argue on a moral basis. I expect the same silence.

[diogenescynic]

I'm not complaining about the past--I'm actually praising Obama for his consistency with uploading the law. You are the one complaining about the present (so that's an interesting rhetorical attack to invert reality like that). I'm pointing out that democrats complaining about Trump were not complaining about Obama--were you? Or were you one of the ones who took the bait that Trump was building concentration camps (that were actually facilities built under Obama)? You don't think it's funny that the people now calling it fascism were ignoring the same thing under Obama? The sanctuary cities were turning over illegal immigrants who committed crimes to ICE when Obama was in office. They called him Deporter in Chief. It's mass hysteria led by Rachel Maddow and these TDS inflicted people who can't get a grip on reality under Trump. They've truly lost it. Trump isn't Hitler, this isn't fascism, and this is nothing more than sour grapes. In 20 years, people will mock democrats for this period.

[throwawayqqq11]

> You don't think it's funny that the people now calling it fascism were ignoring the same thing under Obama?

Obamas ICE didnt sweep from door to door.

> this isn't fascism

Except a cleansed bureaucracy, a paralized legislative, and an "totally immune" unleashed executive. Did you get, trump talking about maybe canceling mid terms and invoking the insurection act?

You didnt answer my question about moral, as expected.

[diogenescynic]

>Obamas ICE didnt sweep from door to door.

DUH because the cities were collaborating and not actively flouting ICE. They didn't need to go door to door. Go back to the same way it was under Obama and this wouldn't be happening.

[throwawayqqq11]

I dint like these cherry picking conversations.

[diogenescynic]

You shifted your argument every time and I refuted it each time. Now you're just crying because you know your argument was weak.

[throwawayqqq11]

I asked you spefically, amd reminded you twice now, to morally justify deportations (without due process) simply by crossing the border illegaly -- or better, not having the paperwork. And then i predicted your silence. There is a substancial difference of "crimes" as basis for deportation between trump and previous admins, that alone is a good moral, not legal, justification to not cooperate as a sanctuary mayor.

I also ticked all the boxes of fascism (adimttedly, i left out the ignored judicative branch), to which you didnt respond too.

I dont get how your reading can be that selective. Well, i would strugle too if i had to defend trumps admin.