[david-gpu]

I hope we can at least avoid the sanewashing.

> President Donald Trump has renewed his efforts to take over Greenland, and tapping into the Danish territory’s natural resources is a key part of the strategy.

It is not "taking over" or "annexing". It is invading. A military ally, at that.

And it is not "tapping into [...] natural resources". It is plundering their natural resources.

None of these hypotheticals are consensual. There is no plan for a freely agreed-upon bilateral agreement. This is about invading and pillaging a foreign land. Whether it is Greenland, Canada, or any other country.

[troyvit]

While we're at it I also fail to see any strategy.

[lostlogin]

> I also fail to see any strategy.

Also see Venezuela. Oil seems to have been a key part of the aim. However oil companies seem surprised and not entirely keen.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c205dx61x76o

[quickthrowman]

Hey guys, want to invest tens of billions of dollars into a country that nationalized the infrastructure you built less than 20 years ago? Anyone?

If a sane administration is elected in 2028, support for oil majors in Venezuela disappears.

[Zigurd]

They are button mashing the policy controller

[goatlover]

Nobody is talking about how less than 1% of the Epstein files have been released weeks past the deadline after Venezuela, ICE in Minneapolis and Greenland.

[krapp]

Plenty of people are still talking about that.

There are a lot of people and they talk about lots of different things.

[lostlogin]

If the talking gets too loud, the US will liberate and free another country.

Iran is all lined up.

[krapp]

They don't care. No one is punishing them for not complying with releasing all of the Epstein files, and no one is going to punish them for anything in those files. Jeffrey Epstein was the first and likely last person to suffer any consequence beyond reputational harm.

There are numerous reasons why the US will probably go to war with Iran at some point (it's part of the "Axis of Evil" after all) but distracting from Epstein isn't one of them.

[thatguy0900]

I don't even have hope it will accomplish anything. Everyone who still supports him either doesn't care or will say it's Ai generated.

[8note]

the end strategy is controlling trade between europe and china. the NW passage and eventually the arctic ocean will be opening.

the US shares its current control with russia for these new trade routes, but it wants to be able to unilaterally decide what china can do at sea. thus it needs control that isnt shared with russia or europe.

its the same thing with panama, the US needs to recapture control to ensure that china cannot ship through without US permission

[brandon272]

Whatever the U.S. feels it needs to do in that regard can be accomplished with the current arrangement. It doesn’t need to invade or unilaterally annex or violate international law.

[BanAntiVaxxers]

It is Putin’s strategy

[fasbiner]

Europe going forward is going to be treated the way the US treats and has always treated Latin American and African and Middle Eastern countries. That you see a conspiracy in further coercion of a non-consensual empire indicates how sheltered and "white identity" oriented you are.

[lostlogin]

> Middle Eastern countries.

Are we including the way arms are poured into various countries, for dubious reasons? Or are we excluding Israel, Saudi and Turkey?

[throw310822]

Israel isn't a middle eastern country. It's a western colony in the middle east.

[locknitpicker]

> While we're at it I also fail to see any strategy.

The word on the street is that it's yet another step to try to keep the Epstein files out of the news.

[HarHarVeryFunny]

There's a strategy, but it's a strategy for changing the story away from Epstein, and for satisfying Trump's dictator fantasies.

[dyauspitr]

Apparently the Lauder billionaire mentioned it because he has a mineral water bottling plant and some other insignificant business there. But Trump liked the idea so it’s basically all this is for some spring water.

More consequentially it’s an attempt to destroy NATO so Putin can have his way with Europe.

[thatguy0900]

Considering how quickly he moved past taking Canada I almost feel like he didn't want it that badly but now he's blustered about it so much it would be embarrassing so not get it.

[jijijijij]

Has the US considered not poisoning their own wells? Might be cheaper.

[fakedang]

Reminds me of the allies backstabbing us so easily in Shogun 2 Total War. Aggressive expansion be damned.

[lazide]

We’ve always been at war with east Asia.

[1718627440]

> It is not "taking over" or "annexing". It is invading. A military ally, at that.

I do not get your point. An annexation is a military invasion with the intention of an ongoing control over that area.

"Taking over" is an euphemism of some more powerful entity stealing from some less powerful.

What's your point here?

[lifestyleguru]

The meeting with Zelensky in Oval Office wasn't some kind of convoluted strategy, a tease, or a bluff. It was fully serious and a preludium to something very nasty. That nasty thing hasn't happened yet.

[prepend]

It’s not invading, yet. Just buying or psyopping is more likely than fighting NATO.

[thatguy0900]

If I threatened someone until they sold me something that they made very clear they did not want to sell noone would call it "Buying" and we shouldn't either. It would be extorting. Under no circumstances are we buying Greenland at this point, anything that happens is something else.

[fasbiner]

Extortion is the right word here.

The problem is that virtually the entire new world and much of the old world was acquired by force and threats of force that has been legitimized over time. So yes, I think this is clearly extortion and any sale that takes would be coerced.

But ever was it thus.

[throw310822]

You are also, for sure, the product of some rape down the line of your ancestors, as we are all. This doesn't make rape justifiable.

[thatguy0900]

For sure in the future I'm sure the US will teach that it was a fair deal and nato was corrupt anyway but I hate to see the whitewashing of it going on already like it's a casual land purchase offer

[prepend]

Extorting is more accurate. But definitely not invading.

[georgemcbay]

> It’s not invading, yet. Just buying or psyopping is more likely than fighting NATO.

Threatening to invade (which the Trump administration has been explicitly doing) is about as damaging as invading in the long run, either way we have sent the message loud and clear that the US is no longer a reliable ally and everyone has to shift away from the post-WW2 world order.