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by masklinn 5000 days ago
> In which other language do you see comment is necessary to make the code function properly?

If by "language" you mean "some library which also provides a separate but way more painful and verbose way of doing the same thing", then it existed in Java before Java 5 added annotations to the language itself.
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bertzzie 5000 days ago
I never know that, but still, the point stands: making a comment necessity for code to function properly is bad, bad, bad. That's why the Java folks throws it out right?
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masklinn 5000 days ago
> I never know that, but still, the point stands: making a comment necessity for code to function properly is bad, bad, bad.

Not really.

> That's why the Java folks throws it out right?

I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. "Java folks" don't throw anything out, Sun introduced a better and better-supported mechanism for doing what javadocs were coerced into doing.

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bertzzie 5000 days ago
> I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. "Java folks" don't throw anything out, Sun introduced a better and better-supported mechanism for doing what javadocs were coerced into doing.

I mean the Java community didn't use it anymore, because the "annotation inside comment" thing is worse than "annotation supported natively by the language". Granted, it's the only practical way to do it in PHP for now, but it still didn't change the fact that it's bad, IMO.

I wonder why SensioLabs (the creator of Symfony and Doctrine) didn't make the PHP's annotation RFC into reality. They are a quite huge powerhouse in the PHP world...

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masklinn 5000 days ago
> I mean the Java community didn't use it anymore, because the "annotation inside comment" thing is worse than "annotation supported natively by the language".

Sure, unless you don't have "annotations supported natively by the language".

> Granted, it's the only practical way to do it in PHP for now

Indeed.

> I wonder why SensioLabs (the creator of Symfony and Doctrine) didn't make the PHP's annotation RFC into reality. They are a quite huge powerhouse in the PHP world...

They might be a powerhouse, but they still aren't the drivers of PHP itself, Zend is. They can ask for the RFC to be finalized and implemented but at the end of the day, they also need to ship. And probably to ship on more versions than a hypothetical future 5.5.

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