[alecco]

But that's like befriending others through the kids. Those usually are very shallow relationships. If they suddenly stop seeing you they wouldn't even check if you are OK or what happened. I guess it's better than nothing but that's not for me.

[OkayPhysicist]

Having many shallow relationships is the first (well, second) step towards having a few deeper ones. You can't befriend people you never meet, and people find it extremely offputting for someone they don't know to immediately try to be their best friend.

[alecco]

I've never, ever seen a shallow friendship turn into a deep friendship. OTOH you might meet someone to date.

[jungturk]

Plenty of my former coworkers have evolved into lifelong substantial friendships.

What started with smalltalk evolved into conversations over lunch which then afforded after work socializing which then led to actively scheduling time for shared interests. All of those provided ample opportunity to learn almost everything about that person and open the door to a deep friendship when mutually desired.

[OkayPhysicist]

Have you never made a deep friendship? How else would anybody make deep friendships? First you do things that let you meet people, then you make acquaintances, then you make setting-specific friends (work friends, gym buddies, etc), then you start inviting/being invited to do things that aren't based around that shared setting, and then you have friendships.

Either that or your definition of deep friendship is substantially off.

[alecco]

Most of my deep friendships were through friends and family. A handful at work/school. And it is the same way for most people I know. But I'm not American, so that's that.

[OkayPhysicist]

Making friends through work and school are pretty much exactly what I described. You go to a place with people, you meet a lot of people, and some of the shallow acquaintances end up becoming long term friends.

[alecco]

>>>>>>> "Not for everyone but if you can, get a dog."

Your original comment.

[snozolli]

You seem extremely judgemental and narrow in your view of the world. This is probably why you have difficulty forming deep friendships without the social proof of family.

As a counter example, I've made some of the best friends of my life through walking my dog at the local dog park over the last decade. Seeing how people are dedicated to and treat their dogs gives me a great insight into their personalities.

[RandallBrown]

Really? Growing up almost all of my parents best friends were the parents of my best friends. This is a common story among my current group of friends.