[FrustratedMonky]

That was one of the main plot points in Andor.

The rebellion had to raise the temperature faster, more dramatically, in order to wake people up. To make the frogs realize it was hot and jump out.

Lonni Jung: "You realize what you've set in motion? People will suffer."

Luthen Rael: "That's the plan."

Luthen believes that to succeed, they need to anger the Empire and make them come down hard on the citizens, which in turn will fuel the rebellion.

[ortusdux]

Reminds me of the West Wing:

C.J. Cregg: Leo, we need to be investigated by someone who wants to kill us just to watch us die. We need someone perceived by the American people to be irresponsible, untrustworthy, partisan, ambitious, and thirsty for the limelight. Am I crazy, or is this not a job for the U. S. House of Representatives?

Leo McGarry: Well, they'll get around to it sooner or later.

C.J. Cregg: So let's make it sooner - let's make it now.

[anon84873628]

We have left wing accelerationists in the US too.

[FrustratedMonky]

Perhaps that is the real problem.

The Rebels were 'accelerationists', but the Empire was also wanting it to escalate. They played into each others hands.

Both sides wanted escalation, so it is positive feedback loop.

When societies get to the point where everyone is escalating, there isn't much to stop it. The cool heads are drowned out.

[FrustratedMonky]

Did people not like Andor? Or the same Russian Bots that downvote any anti-right-wing/brown-shirt sentiment.

[HumblyTossed]

Woah woah woah! I still haven't watched this. (I know, I know...)

[eszed]

Watch it. Best TV show I can think of, ever. By that I mean that the writing and acting and production values are top notch; it's entertaining throughout - some of the other greats are not (The Wire falls down here, sometimes; Keislowski's Dekalog, likewise - though its best moments are better than anything else); and Andor nails its cultural moment, by being directly about, well, all of the Important Stuff we're talking about in this thread. Also, it's a tragedy; it's about sacrifice and loss, and the human consequences of following your convictions - regardless of the side you choose. (That last note's a personal taste, but I'd stand by the former points as being reasonably objective.)

I sat through it going, "how the hell did they manage to make a work of art out of a Star Wars series?", which even makes it better. You don't have to care about Star Wars AT ALL to appreciate Andor, but if you do, watching Andor -> Rogue One -> Originals back to back makes the earlier stuff better.

You'll think I'm over-selling it. Please watch it, then come back and tell me I'm wrong.

[FrustratedMonky]

"makes the earlier stuff better."

This is an amazing feat.

if only every prequel could accomplish this.