[lachiflippi]

Refillable vapes used to be the standard around a decade ago, back when a liter of vape base (without nicotine) cost 30€ at max. Disposable vapes pretty much didn't exist. Now the same liter of vape base (still without nicotine) is a "tobacco product" and costs 400€+ due to taxes thanks to decade-long lobbying efforts by big tobacco, turning refillable vapes into a massive niche product due to single-use vapes costing the same or less, without any of the hassle of mixing your own liquids or having to refill them.

[squigz]

Are you referring to VG/PG? Are they really that expensive for you? That's wild.

[lachiflippi]

Yes, 100ml from the same store I bought a liter from for 40€ in 2015 now cost 56€. There is currently a tax of 0.32€ per ml on liquid, no matter if you're buying the base or the finished product.

[xmprt]

I'm confused. Why wouldn't the same taxes apply to a disposable vape which has the same liquid inside of it?

Also, in the GP comment, you mentioned the cost was 400€ but here you're saying 56€. Are you talking about different things?

[squigz]

The 400 euro figure was for a liter, while the 56 euro price is for 100ml

[squigz]

I guess it's time to not only make the vaping liquids yourself, but the bases too :P

Quick Googling suggests I'd pay less than 30 euro for a liter of VG. What about for the nicotine concentrate? I'd pay about 20 euros for 100ml of 20mg/ml concentrate.