[adrianN]

Intelligence is not magic though. The difference between intelligence and mathematics can plausibly be the same kind of difference between chemistry and intelligence.

[qsera]

There is Intelligence and there is Imitation of Intelligence. LLMs do the latter.

Talk to any model about deep subjects. You ll understand what I am saying. After a while it will start going around in circles.

FFS ask it to make an original joke, and be amused..

[adrianN]

Many animals are clearly intelligent, but I can't talk to them at all.

[ltbarcly3]

If you understood anything about this topic you would know that imitation of intelligence requires intelligence. It's the same thing.

[qsera]

Give it some thought.

[ltbarcly3]

It has been given significant thought already. This isn't a new topic.

[obsoleetorr]

> After a while it will start going around in circles.

so like your average human

> FFS ask it to make an original joke, and be amused..

let's try this one on you - say an original joke

oh, right, you dont respond to strangers prompts, thus you have agency, unlike an LLM

[qsera]

>so like your average human

If an average human has seen and read all that is written till now, I bet that they can hold the conversation going for quite a long time...

>say an original joke

I asked an LLM if it had a good night with sweet dreams, It said, "I don't sleep and I only dream when I work!"