[RickJWagner]

Are the secret police any different than when Obama used them?

The ACLU has a series of papers written when Obama was in office. They claim violence, lack of due process, illegal grabs, etc.

Why be upset now but not then?

If you condemn Obama as well as Trump, I applaud your integrity. If you condemn only one, I question your motives.

[sanktanglia]

They are absolutely different. They flagrantly deny the courts and are going door to door and harassing and detaining a higher percentage of people without criminal background. The scale and brazenness(and also the end game, this is 1 year into trump) of this administration is in no way comparable to Obamas and to claim otherwise is ridiculous

[RickJWagner]

Read this.

https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/border-patrol-wa...

Then google ‘Obama ICE ACLU’.

The search results alone will show you that Obama did indeed act very much like Trump. The cited paper alone tells you this.

If you are sincere about this, I urge you to look at it and give it fair consideration. You simply cannot excuse Obama while condemning Trump.

[sanktanglia]

At no point did I excuse Obama. I said the scale and horror are not the same. Trump scaled up the budget and number of employees, lowered the requirements to enter and actively encouraged(and supported at the supreme court) to bring back racial profiling. These 2 administrations are in now way comparable