[psunavy03]

While there's more than enough room to criticize both agencies these days, and if I did work for one of them I'd be retaining personal legal representation, doxxing people is not the answer. Sure, if some bad actors can be sued/prosecuted, that's not a bad thing per se.

But we're already living in a world where US Senators and Supreme Court Justices have had to have security provided because of death threats from both sides of the aisle. We don't need to be encouraging vigilantes. No side is so noble that people can't do evil in its name.

[duxup]

I’m not in favor of doxing.

But let’s be clear, it’s not a few bad apples. ICE by design is operating outside the law.

The videos are endless, people outside their homes on a walk questioned and threatened with arrest if they do not produce ID, face scanned and so on:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/1qbawlr/minnea...

They’ve blocked off whole neighborhoods going door to door questioning people.

Let alone the videos of drive by pepper spray, drawing their weapons on people, shoving people to the ground…

These aren’t one off events. This is everyday in Minneapolis.

[ck2]

two wrongs don't make it right but just to document that ICE has been using their facial scan and plate scan apps meant to determine immigration status on non-violent protestors and then following them home (or even more creepy, leading them to the protestor's home) and calling them out by full name and details

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/13/ice-using-private-d...

I'd settle for the middle-ground law enforcement can't wear masks and cover their agency/badge number (or use fake plates)

Extreme powers has to come with extreme responsibility, they are heavily armed and also using their cars to ram people on purpose, they don't have to follow rules because they know no-one knows who they are

[IAmBroom]

"Two wrongs don't make it right" is a pleasant aphorism. Sometimes it takes a wrong to correct a wrong.

By analogy: No amount of polite words will make Russia leave Ukraine. Killing every Russian in Ukraine probably won't do it either. And precise targeting of just the drone sources in Russia isn't feasible.

Blowing to smithereens Russian fuel depots inside their cities? That will negatively impact, probably even kill, innocent Russian citizens. So, definitely a kind of "wrong"... that is necessary to end the war.

[tastyface]

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If... if... We didn’t love freedom enough." --Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Gulag Archipelago

We learn from history. These people don't get to terrorize our communities without pushback; no amount of finger-wagging will change this. (To be clear, I do not advocate violence, death threats, etc. But their little cosplay masks will not protect their anonymity. Let their friends and neighbors find out who they really are -- maybe they will feel shame for once.)

[IAmBroom]

Doxxing extra-legal operatives is moral.

When the policing and justice system fails the people, mob rule is (sadly, imperfectly, but obviously) the only means of redress.

Successful, prolonged mob rule is called "revolution", and considered completely legitimate, ironically.

[mcphage]

> Sure, if some bad actors can be sued/prosecuted

And if they can’t be?

[grimblee]

I read that during the irish occupation, irish policemen (so, working for the british governement) were rejected and isolated socially, treated as traitors to their people.

Which led them to eventually refuse to continue oppressing their people for money, the revolution, independance, all that.

I kinda see connections, don't you ?

[sylos]

Are you really bothsidings this? Really?